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Arguing With Myself......conversations with my younger, more liberal self.

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In the past couple years, I have talked to/debated many of my millennial counterparts on the left.  Now being nearly 30 and have considered myself "conservative" for 4 or 5 years now, but before that, I was very much a leftist SJW like the people with whom I am now debating. The most common response I have received in such a debate was that I simply do not understand them( much less their arguments/points of view) and therefore that is why  I cannot agree with them when it comes to political topics. I almost started to believe it to be true. Perhaps I was simply not understanding them. I would try so hard to see it form their point of view, but I just cannot......especially when half of their arguments consisted entirely of logical fallacies. No matter how hard I tried, I just could not understand it fully. 

Then it sort of dawned on me............I used to be just like that when I was younger. In fact, I distinctly remember debating my conservative friends on Facebook over many issues including socialism, communism as well as guns......Yes....... I know......hard to believe now. I even used to be the biggest fan of The Young Turks, but now 10 years later, I enjoy listening to Stephen CrowderBen ShapiroPaul Joseph Watson and Jordan Peterson

Thanks to the fact that most of my thoughts and ideas from that era of my life were recorded through Facebook and social media, I was able to remember a lot of what I said back then. I was able to look back on it and really read through my arguments now that I have a COMPLETELY different worldview from that of my 17 year old self. I went back to look at things I had posted between 2006 and 2011 (which were my most leftist years before I became a conservative)

It was somewhat surreal, almost like it was a different person who I did not recognize except at certain moments where I could recognize a common catchphrase, style of argumentation or snark comment which I knew could only have come from me. It was almost as if I had gone back in time and was speaking to myself as a teenager (except without accidentally becoming my own father........ew Marty.......just .....gross.)

Reading what I wrote and thought back then did help me to better understand what I believed and why, yet I still was not convinced by it enough to change my mind back. In fact all I could think of was the great irony of reading the responses by my conservative friends......all of which now closely resemble the responses I make to more liberal political arguments.......especially my "Change My Mind" threads. Maybe in the future I might go through some of them and post a full rebuttal of myself.

 

 

 

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HMMM  I got more liberal with age on some issues but more conservative on some. I lean more conservative on state races. I voted for both Lee for Governor and Bredeson for Senate. I have never voted a straight ticket by party because of my diverse views.  Thats why I tend to play in the policy area of these types of games. than the party hack now,

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4 hours ago, Jellybeans said:

HMMM  I got more liberal with age on some issues but more conservative on some. I lean more conservative on state races. I voted for both Lee for Governor and Bredeson for Senate. I have never voted a straight ticket by party because of my diverse views.  Thats why I tend to play in the policy area of these types of games. than the party hack now,

You’re from Tennessee? That’s how I voted!

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1 minute ago, Jellybeans said:

yep right on the Nashville line.

No way! What neighborhood? I’m from Hendersonville.

Correction: between Nubbie, you, and I, Nashville is taking over!

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4 minutes ago, Wm96 said:

No way! What neighborhood? I’m from Hendersonville.

Correction: between Nubbie, you, and I, Nashville is taking over!

La Vergne area we can walk to Percy priest lake. I work at Vanderbilt and a field instructor an MTSU so I am about 30 mins between the two. I use to live in Goodlettsville area.

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4 minutes ago, Jellybeans said:

La Vergne area we can walk to Percy priest lake. I work at Vanderbilt and a field instructor an MTSU so I am about 30 mins between the two. I use to live in Goodlettsville area.

Dude that’s insane. I’m a grad student at Vandy and work as a scientific writer and financial analyst at VUMC—also went to high school at Davidson which is right next to Goodlettsville.

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6 minutes ago, Wm96 said:

Dude that’s insane. I’m a grad student at Vandy and work as a scientific writer and financial analyst at VUMC—also went to high school at Davidson which is right next to Goodlettsville.

cool Nashville is taking over. I am a flight nurse on a life flight unit at the medical center. One reason I have crazy hours.

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6 minutes ago, Jellybeans said:

cool Nashville is taking over. I am a flight nurse on a life flight unit at the medical center. One reason I have crazy hours.

Wow! That’s a really great job. Doing important work.

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13 hours ago, Wm96 said:

No way! What neighborhood? I’m from Hendersonville.

Correction: between Nubbie, you, and I, Nashville is taking over!

Another correction:

"between Nubbie, you, and me, Nashville is taking over.


 

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Steering the conversation back a little bit to its origin.......

 

Did any of your have a similar experience of looking back and seeing yourself as the political opposite? (either right to left...or left to right)

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Yes, I was a hardcore right-libertarian. I was active in my State GOP, but I went through a two-three year transformation and recognized that I no longer held conservative values. So now I consider my self a left-leaning libertarian. I will most likely join the Democratic Party in the coming years. 

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4 minutes ago, Rufus Goodwin said:

Yes, I was a hardcore right-libertarian. I was active in my State GOP, but I went through a two-three year transformation and recognized that I no longer held conservative values. So now I consider my self a left-leaning libertarian. I will most likely join the Democratic Party in the coming years. 

 

Thanks for sharing. :) :) 

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I actually used to be a pretty far-right, particularly socially far-right conservative. Throughout college, as I met more and more people from diverse backgrounds, I got more socially liberal, and now my transformation is complete.

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I am a lot more liberal now. As an example, I actually worked on the 2012 presidential campaign of Newt Gingrich. I am always a split party tickets now in elections so I have come a long way.

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